338 edge barrel life

All likely outcomes will be interesting. Cleckner: What in the world did you send me to test? Cowards. The ammunition loading was some of the best I’ve seen. All were accurate as hell. CMG West, LLC The 338 Lapua Mag has been king for a while in the big-boy long-range cartridges. The Edge and the Improved 338 Lapua were the velocity leaders. The.338 Edge was designed by Shawn Carlock during the interim period between Remington’s release of the.300 RUM and the expectation of a.338 RUM.

I shot 1,000 yards with 5.9 Mils of elevation above my 100-yard zero and 1,250 yards with 8 Mils of elevation. The bolt was smooth (it would get smoother as the cerakote burnished in) and it extracted and ejected as it should. OK, now I’m impressed.

It has actually increased accuracy and has not affected barrel life in a negative way at all. © 2020 Recoil Magazine

The rifle functioned well. The 11th round dropped to 3,045 fps, opening the ES up to 30 fps, but all but one other round out of 50 stayed within a 10 fps spread. For those of you who don’t geek-out on ballistics, this is very fast for such a heavy bullet. Founded by Frank Galli in 2014, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to it’s users in one location. I've figgered out if I go 338LM, I'm just gonna buy a AR30. Your email address will not be published. A quick Google search on my phone showed me that I should expect the velocity of the 300-grain bullet to be just over 3,000 feet per second! More on this later. Jun 10, 2008 #1 L. lamiglas Well-Known Member. Click here to get IMMEDIATE ACCESS to a digital PDF of this target pack. First, the rifle was difficult to operate. Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics.

Cleckner: You expect me to put my cheek on top of the chamber while I torch-off a 300-grain bullet out of ammo hand-loaded by someone else in a wildcat cartridge that is pushing a modified 338 Lapua Magnum to the extreme? I opened the cardboard box and found two monstrous ammunition containers with 50 rounds each of what looked like 338 Lapua ammo on steroids — slightly larger case capacity with a long, 300-grain Berger bullet sticking out. Long-Range Killing Machine: The Defensive Edge 338 Terminator. Thread starter lamiglas; Start date Jun 10, 2008; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . When possible, I shoot rifles with my firing-side thumb on the same side as, and near, my trigger finger. Firearms & Survivalists Lifestyle Before I even picked up the rifle, my phone was already in my hand, and I was waiting for our fearless editor to answer. To clarify, I'm ONLY considering 338 Edge here, not 338 LM, for the reasons stated above. Thank you! Due to the linkage required for the bullpup design, the LRKM is a single-shot rifle. In addition to being very awkward to grab the bolt so close to my body, once the bolt was about 1/3rd of the way back, it ran into my shoulder and stopped. A 40-fps decrease is almost a 4-foot difference at 2,000 yards — enough to miss a target completely. They sell the brass for $400 for 100 pieces. I just didn’t like bullpup bolt action rifles in general. I did struggle a bit with anticipating the recoil on my 100-yard groups. I loaded up and fired my first shot out of the LRKM. this would be a defensive edge built rifle with a hart barrel. The LRKM rifle is extremely accurate but the bullpup design, although executed as well as it could be, is clumsy on a bolt-action rifle. It also means there’s no way to feed it from a magazine. This unique throat design lowers pressure so much that a standard cartridge/load will not meet its normal performance expectations in this chamber. His newest project is focused on family and organizational safety at Mayday Safety.

The trigger was phenomenal!

This not only allows for easier manipulation of the safety, it also prevents over gripping or torquing the rifle, while placing my thumb near the bolt knob for fast reloads.

My money is on this helping to increase barrel life too. And yes, this round is capable at 2,000 yards. I noted ammunition headstamp, “338 Terminator,” and the rifle’s marking, “Defensive Edge LRKM” (which I later found stands for “Long Range Killing Machine”). I had a wonderful time testing them and learning about them. My bias stems from operating the rifle and stability/height issues due to the stock being high enough to make room for the pistol grip. More on this after some ballistics of the round. I am a big believer in quickly running the bolt and getting the rifle back into the fight for a quick follow-up shot if needed. This system is only useful if you have the money for it ($4 per piece of brass is pricey), you hand-load ammunition (and are willing and capable of making extremely accurate rounds), and mostly want to shoot one round at a time from one location (the weight, function, and recoil of this rifle don’t match with “on the move” shooting). The Chamber Defensive Edge has a patented chamber design wherein they use a special throat to handle the power of these monster rounds without dangerous pressures. As a note, I offered to let them shoot the rifle, but they were happier watching me from a safe distance. The other long-range shooters at the range and I were pleasantly surprised with the rifle’s accuracy.

That M700 bolt exiting the rear of the action means you have to take the rifle out of the shoulder each time you stuff in a reload. A 338 Lapua Mag would’ve likely blown a primer, long before that speed was reached. Yep, that’s right — I couldn’t operate the bolt while staying in position on the rifle. Second, I needed to change my position between each shot. That’s a heavy bullet, traveling very flat, and packing a wallop on the target. Then 300 Norma Mag came along and our military really started to like it because it outperforms the 338 Lapua Mag with less recoil. I returned to the range for a second trip and experienced similar results — I was able to get ½ MOA groups out to 1,250 yards. It’s effectively a 338 Lapua Mag Improved +P. 5-6 loading on a case before they need annealed, or just toss them.

Takedown is pretty straightforward, assuming you can turn two screws. The ammunition was extremely consistent, and the rifle seemed to be very accurate, especially for that large of a round. does this sound about right? The reduced pressure prevents a cartridge from reaching the velocity it would normally, so this throat/chamber design is best suited for monsters like the 338 Terminator. POD-150806, Home » Magazine » Issue 40 » Long-Range Killing Machine: The Defensive Edge 338 Terminator, This article originally appeared in RECOIL Issue 40. You must log in or register to reply here. My worst at that distance was just over 1 MOA, and I attribute much of that to a poor fit for me and the rifle. So as of this writing, the “+P” design in 338 Edge has gained a little over 240 fps through reduced chamber pressure and allowing different powders. Let me hear your arguments for one or the other. However, for the vast majority of shooters looking for an extreme long range rifle and cartridge, I’d recommend something like a Barrett MRAD in 338 Lapua Mag or even the new 300 PRC. Both the cartridge and the rifle have some merits and impressive performance. (Thank you for confirming that important point.) I inspected the brass and noted no pressure signs. However, I personally recommend neither for most shooters. I’m not a fan of a pistol-grip chassis on bolt-action rifles. The bullpup design isn’t practical for any use that I have for a rifle, but is required in order to keep the OAL somewhat manageable because of the humongous 32-inch barrel needed for the cartridge to perform. Thanks, Re: 338 Lapua vs 338 Edge??? A rifle case and a large cardboard box arrived for me in the mail. Great.

You may not agree, but you don’t have to — as for me, I’ll extend the stalk and not the shot. The special chamber. He runs both RocketFFL which helps people get an FFL and stay compliant and RocketCCW which gets people qualified for a CCW online. All rights reserved. I moved out to 600 yards and then quickly worked my way out to 1,000, where I placed three rounds in a 6-inch group on a steel gong. A 338 Lapua Mag will launch the same bullet at around 2,800 fps, and that extra 300 fps is a big difference and should result in some very high pressures. It was exactly where I was aiming and my chronograph read 3,071 fps. I needed to completely remove my shoulder from the rifle in order to operate it. And here’s where I found my first pleasant surprise.

Ryan Cleckner is a former special operations sniper and sniper instructor. 338 edge barrel life. This really is novel — it allows the bullet to be controlled and start spinning without the abrupt start normally incurred with a standard chamber. There’s a step wherein the bullet engages the rifling as it should, however, it isn’t under full pressure yet because it isn’t necked down to its final bore size until it can travel a bit. Harrison: (laughter with a British accent, of course). Cleckner: I’m heading to the range. Yes, the design did save over a foot off the overall length but it introduced too many issues for me. The Cartridge The 338 Terminator is a monster. I think I've heard that before as well. Get 5% off all Creedmoor brand ammo with code CREEDMOOR5. Harrison: Well, you didn’t expect me to do it, did you? The rifle shipped with two test targets showing 1/3 MOA groups, and while I shot multiple 1/2 MOA groups, I never quite got them as small as the test targets.

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