On the NG website it looks like you must be a warrant officer but I'm not sure of exactly that entails.
How often do you guys fly, what do you do outside of flying, etc for the Army? My state requires a Class 1 Flight Physical and a passing SIFT test. We also do first responder stuff for natural disasters, so tie that in too. Just for bare minimums though, you're talking flying at least 2-3 times per month outside of drill to hit somewhere around 10 hours per month.
Do you know if having flight credits already completed gives you an edge? A valid Class 1 flight physical. Thanks, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the nationalguard community. Commissioned officers receive their commission through sources such as ROTC, OCS, or West Point. Overall I’d recommend staying in air guard or going Warrant, but I’m not an actual army pilot so take what I say with a grain of salt.
If you want to just show up, fly, and leave, I recommend warrant. I’m a mechanic so I know a few pilots so I can give some insight. You will probably be doing something guard related every week (for officership and flying) in order to maintain minimums. So the box is checked there. Specifically I'm curious about Apache/Blackhawks and doing so as a Commissioned Officer. Second, BOLC is the same for active duty and guard/reserve. It is a lot more than the whole "1 weekend a month, 2 weeks a year" slogan as you have to maintain your flight hours. The National Guard's roots date to the 1600s, when men set aside their farming tools and took up arms to fight alongside soldiers in defense of their towns.
I imagine GPA is a significant factor, what GPA do they look for?
Any letters of recommendation, civilian flight hours, leadership experience, etc are used to sell yourself for a slot. The OPTEMPO is HIGH.
At the end of the day i enjoy it. Commissioned also fly, but we also have leadership roles. This requires a degree, and you're not necessarily guaranteed Aviation. Flying is fun and i get a good amount of additional income from it ($10-$15k a year).
Now for Air Guard vs Army Guard I don’t know why you’d want to switch. Commissioned officers fly less as they have to deal with paperwork, briefings and the welfare of their Soldiers. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts.
There is an epidemic if you will of guys flooding to the airlines. Do you actually ever fly?
Mine was 15months (April17-JUN18) all said and done. Army AH-64E Apache pilots assigned to 16th Combat Aviation Brigade, 7th Infantry Division prepare to depart for a mission as soldiers load an AGM-114 Hellfire missile onto the helicopter …
This can be important if you're looking to fly for the multiple airlines that have started up Rotary Transition Programs. It's definitely time consuming and can wear on you depending on the commute, but it is rewarding and hella fun!
First thing, talk with the OSM to see whether you might be able to transfer into an AV unit.
As far as being a commission officer it’s more work involved and less flying that an warrant officer so I would go warrant if I were you. The problem of course is balancing work/life. The Army wide there is a shortage of pilots. You will be qualified in one advanced airframe (Chinook, Blackhawk, Apache) with the potential opportunity to be qualified in the Lakota (Airbus EC-145) - they are using the Lakota as a trainer but they have not completely transitioned, hence why that qual is up in the air. Follow up question.
Press J to jump to the feed. Regardless, I'm currently a college student working on my private pilots license, and I want to fly for the Army National Guard or Air Guard once I graduate.
I need 48 hours every 6 months and we very rarely fly during drill. Press J to jump to the feed.
The National Guard aviators have been involved in many important roles … 15T (aircraft mechanic), or any 15 series MOS (pnedraulics (SP), sheet metal, avionics, etc) are all good choices as they get you familiarity with the systems.
Location for current, potential, and veteran soldiers and airmen of the US National Guard.
I’ve heard of colonels reverting to CW1/2 because being a warrant is just better as a pilot. Yep no high school to flight school in the guard. So I'm considering joining the NG. Especially if you live more than an hour away from the AASF. Some specific questions of mine listed below. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the nationalguard community.
I'm currently trying to determine if I wan't to stay Guard or go active duty when I commission. Or is that left to Warrant Officers? Generally you will get either a TH-67A or LUH-72 for your trainer, and then move onto whatever your advanced airframe be whether that is UH60, CH47, C12, etc. BOLC depends but as a Guard flyer you are usually front loaded in classes, and your AD peers generally will have longer wait times for certain classes.
Location for current, potential, and veteran soldiers and airmen of the US National Guard. I've heard some great things about Guard aviation, but I have no way of validating any of it as I've never been to a Guard aviation unit, or seen the day-to-day work done in an aviation unit.
That being said, I fly way more than my active duty counterparts. My question is, what pre qualifications do I need to be a helicopter pilot? They'll have all the information. Generally, yes, warrants will fly more than you but that can always depend on units & being guard.
If I was halfway to completing the necessary credits, could that get me a guarantee?
You should generally have an idea on what your advanced airframe will be as if your state doesnt have Chinooks, you're not going to be flying them. I've already been working with my program to get changed from my FIST unit to an AV unit. But you get paid!
Generally expect 13-18 months and this can depend on many factors. Thanks for the quick response. Phenomenal response.
Press J to jump to the feed. “This increase in AvIP, the first for Army pilots in over 20 years, will result in an increase of pay for most pilots in the regular Army, Army National Guard, and Army Reserves," Francis said.
How long is BOLC?
Super helpful. These are done through AFTP (Additional Flight Training Periods) where you come in during the week, fly, and get paid to do it. All that said, many of them still say they prefer rotary wing to fixed wing flying.
I have a good handle on the Air Guard side of things, but not on the Army Guard side.
Sounded like they removed HOST from the curriculum.
I’ve never heard of a pilot in my unit come from Air Force, only those that switch to Air Force.
Also, what specifically is considered for NG aviation officer hopefuls? Don’t worry too much about actual flight school, worry about getting there. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts.
Some states still do the "high school to flight school" although it's becoming increasingly more rare.
Hi all, I'm curious to know what the differences are in lifestyle as a part-time flyer for the Army national guard?
Being a 15T was awesome and even if you don't for some reason make it here, it's a great career.
So take that for what you will. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the nationalguard community.
On the NG website it looks like you must be a warrant officer but I'm not sure of exactly that entails.
How often do you guys fly, what do you do outside of flying, etc for the Army? My state requires a Class 1 Flight Physical and a passing SIFT test. We also do first responder stuff for natural disasters, so tie that in too. Just for bare minimums though, you're talking flying at least 2-3 times per month outside of drill to hit somewhere around 10 hours per month.
Do you know if having flight credits already completed gives you an edge? A valid Class 1 flight physical. Thanks, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the nationalguard community. Commissioned officers receive their commission through sources such as ROTC, OCS, or West Point. Overall I’d recommend staying in air guard or going Warrant, but I’m not an actual army pilot so take what I say with a grain of salt.
If you want to just show up, fly, and leave, I recommend warrant. I’m a mechanic so I know a few pilots so I can give some insight. You will probably be doing something guard related every week (for officership and flying) in order to maintain minimums. So the box is checked there. Specifically I'm curious about Apache/Blackhawks and doing so as a Commissioned Officer. Second, BOLC is the same for active duty and guard/reserve. It is a lot more than the whole "1 weekend a month, 2 weeks a year" slogan as you have to maintain your flight hours. The National Guard's roots date to the 1600s, when men set aside their farming tools and took up arms to fight alongside soldiers in defense of their towns.
I imagine GPA is a significant factor, what GPA do they look for?
Any letters of recommendation, civilian flight hours, leadership experience, etc are used to sell yourself for a slot. The OPTEMPO is HIGH.
At the end of the day i enjoy it. Commissioned also fly, but we also have leadership roles. This requires a degree, and you're not necessarily guaranteed Aviation. Flying is fun and i get a good amount of additional income from it ($10-$15k a year).
Now for Air Guard vs Army Guard I don’t know why you’d want to switch. Commissioned officers fly less as they have to deal with paperwork, briefings and the welfare of their Soldiers. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts.
There is an epidemic if you will of guys flooding to the airlines. Do you actually ever fly?
Mine was 15months (April17-JUN18) all said and done. Army AH-64E Apache pilots assigned to 16th Combat Aviation Brigade, 7th Infantry Division prepare to depart for a mission as soldiers load an AGM-114 Hellfire missile onto the helicopter …
This can be important if you're looking to fly for the multiple airlines that have started up Rotary Transition Programs. It's definitely time consuming and can wear on you depending on the commute, but it is rewarding and hella fun!
First thing, talk with the OSM to see whether you might be able to transfer into an AV unit.
As far as being a commission officer it’s more work involved and less flying that an warrant officer so I would go warrant if I were you. The problem of course is balancing work/life. The Army wide there is a shortage of pilots. You will be qualified in one advanced airframe (Chinook, Blackhawk, Apache) with the potential opportunity to be qualified in the Lakota (Airbus EC-145) - they are using the Lakota as a trainer but they have not completely transitioned, hence why that qual is up in the air. Follow up question.
Press J to jump to the feed. Regardless, I'm currently a college student working on my private pilots license, and I want to fly for the Army National Guard or Air Guard once I graduate.
I need 48 hours every 6 months and we very rarely fly during drill. Press J to jump to the feed.
The National Guard aviators have been involved in many important roles … 15T (aircraft mechanic), or any 15 series MOS (pnedraulics (SP), sheet metal, avionics, etc) are all good choices as they get you familiarity with the systems.
Location for current, potential, and veteran soldiers and airmen of the US National Guard.
I’ve heard of colonels reverting to CW1/2 because being a warrant is just better as a pilot. Yep no high school to flight school in the guard. So I'm considering joining the NG. Especially if you live more than an hour away from the AASF. Some specific questions of mine listed below. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the nationalguard community.
I'm currently trying to determine if I wan't to stay Guard or go active duty when I commission. Or is that left to Warrant Officers? Generally you will get either a TH-67A or LUH-72 for your trainer, and then move onto whatever your advanced airframe be whether that is UH60, CH47, C12, etc. BOLC depends but as a Guard flyer you are usually front loaded in classes, and your AD peers generally will have longer wait times for certain classes.
Location for current, potential, and veteran soldiers and airmen of the US National Guard. I've heard some great things about Guard aviation, but I have no way of validating any of it as I've never been to a Guard aviation unit, or seen the day-to-day work done in an aviation unit.
That being said, I fly way more than my active duty counterparts. My question is, what pre qualifications do I need to be a helicopter pilot? They'll have all the information. Generally, yes, warrants will fly more than you but that can always depend on units & being guard.
If I was halfway to completing the necessary credits, could that get me a guarantee?
You should generally have an idea on what your advanced airframe will be as if your state doesnt have Chinooks, you're not going to be flying them. I've already been working with my program to get changed from my FIST unit to an AV unit. But you get paid!
Generally expect 13-18 months and this can depend on many factors. Thanks for the quick response. Phenomenal response.
Press J to jump to the feed. “This increase in AvIP, the first for Army pilots in over 20 years, will result in an increase of pay for most pilots in the regular Army, Army National Guard, and Army Reserves," Francis said.
How long is BOLC?
Super helpful. These are done through AFTP (Additional Flight Training Periods) where you come in during the week, fly, and get paid to do it. All that said, many of them still say they prefer rotary wing to fixed wing flying.
I have a good handle on the Air Guard side of things, but not on the Army Guard side.
Sounded like they removed HOST from the curriculum.
I’ve never heard of a pilot in my unit come from Air Force, only those that switch to Air Force.
Also, what specifically is considered for NG aviation officer hopefuls? Don’t worry too much about actual flight school, worry about getting there. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts.
Some states still do the "high school to flight school" although it's becoming increasingly more rare.
Hi all, I'm curious to know what the differences are in lifestyle as a part-time flyer for the Army national guard?
Being a 15T was awesome and even if you don't for some reason make it here, it's a great career.
So take that for what you will. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the nationalguard community.
Check with one of your states warrant officer recruiters. The Army National Guard website is more or less useless when it comes to explaining the day-to-day work unfortunately.
Thank you, I'll put this information to good use. Do I need prior experience or any degree?
I'm an Army National Guard SMP cadet, former 13F - Forward Observer with three years time in service as an enlisted man(no deployments....so not really sure if that qualifies me as a man or a kid?). We get deployed often or activated by the state, moreso than other units in my opinion. I've made around $15-20k/year extra on just flying alone. All this is contingent if your state has slots to fill for warrant officers, and not all WO's are pilots, they are "technical experts" in their fields. The Army National Guard website is more or less useless when it comes to explaining the day-to-day work unfortunately.
On the NG website it looks like you must be a warrant officer but I'm not sure of exactly that entails.
How often do you guys fly, what do you do outside of flying, etc for the Army? My state requires a Class 1 Flight Physical and a passing SIFT test. We also do first responder stuff for natural disasters, so tie that in too. Just for bare minimums though, you're talking flying at least 2-3 times per month outside of drill to hit somewhere around 10 hours per month.
Do you know if having flight credits already completed gives you an edge? A valid Class 1 flight physical. Thanks, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the nationalguard community. Commissioned officers receive their commission through sources such as ROTC, OCS, or West Point. Overall I’d recommend staying in air guard or going Warrant, but I’m not an actual army pilot so take what I say with a grain of salt.
If you want to just show up, fly, and leave, I recommend warrant. I’m a mechanic so I know a few pilots so I can give some insight. You will probably be doing something guard related every week (for officership and flying) in order to maintain minimums. So the box is checked there. Specifically I'm curious about Apache/Blackhawks and doing so as a Commissioned Officer. Second, BOLC is the same for active duty and guard/reserve. It is a lot more than the whole "1 weekend a month, 2 weeks a year" slogan as you have to maintain your flight hours. The National Guard's roots date to the 1600s, when men set aside their farming tools and took up arms to fight alongside soldiers in defense of their towns.
I imagine GPA is a significant factor, what GPA do they look for?
Any letters of recommendation, civilian flight hours, leadership experience, etc are used to sell yourself for a slot. The OPTEMPO is HIGH.
At the end of the day i enjoy it. Commissioned also fly, but we also have leadership roles. This requires a degree, and you're not necessarily guaranteed Aviation. Flying is fun and i get a good amount of additional income from it ($10-$15k a year).
Now for Air Guard vs Army Guard I don’t know why you’d want to switch. Commissioned officers fly less as they have to deal with paperwork, briefings and the welfare of their Soldiers. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts.
There is an epidemic if you will of guys flooding to the airlines. Do you actually ever fly?
Mine was 15months (April17-JUN18) all said and done. Army AH-64E Apache pilots assigned to 16th Combat Aviation Brigade, 7th Infantry Division prepare to depart for a mission as soldiers load an AGM-114 Hellfire missile onto the helicopter …
This can be important if you're looking to fly for the multiple airlines that have started up Rotary Transition Programs. It's definitely time consuming and can wear on you depending on the commute, but it is rewarding and hella fun!
First thing, talk with the OSM to see whether you might be able to transfer into an AV unit.
As far as being a commission officer it’s more work involved and less flying that an warrant officer so I would go warrant if I were you. The problem of course is balancing work/life. The Army wide there is a shortage of pilots. You will be qualified in one advanced airframe (Chinook, Blackhawk, Apache) with the potential opportunity to be qualified in the Lakota (Airbus EC-145) - they are using the Lakota as a trainer but they have not completely transitioned, hence why that qual is up in the air. Follow up question.
Press J to jump to the feed. Regardless, I'm currently a college student working on my private pilots license, and I want to fly for the Army National Guard or Air Guard once I graduate.
I need 48 hours every 6 months and we very rarely fly during drill. Press J to jump to the feed.
The National Guard aviators have been involved in many important roles … 15T (aircraft mechanic), or any 15 series MOS (pnedraulics (SP), sheet metal, avionics, etc) are all good choices as they get you familiarity with the systems.
Location for current, potential, and veteran soldiers and airmen of the US National Guard.
I’ve heard of colonels reverting to CW1/2 because being a warrant is just better as a pilot. Yep no high school to flight school in the guard. So I'm considering joining the NG. Especially if you live more than an hour away from the AASF. Some specific questions of mine listed below. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the nationalguard community.
I'm currently trying to determine if I wan't to stay Guard or go active duty when I commission. Or is that left to Warrant Officers? Generally you will get either a TH-67A or LUH-72 for your trainer, and then move onto whatever your advanced airframe be whether that is UH60, CH47, C12, etc. BOLC depends but as a Guard flyer you are usually front loaded in classes, and your AD peers generally will have longer wait times for certain classes.
Location for current, potential, and veteran soldiers and airmen of the US National Guard. I've heard some great things about Guard aviation, but I have no way of validating any of it as I've never been to a Guard aviation unit, or seen the day-to-day work done in an aviation unit.
That being said, I fly way more than my active duty counterparts. My question is, what pre qualifications do I need to be a helicopter pilot? They'll have all the information. Generally, yes, warrants will fly more than you but that can always depend on units & being guard.
If I was halfway to completing the necessary credits, could that get me a guarantee?
You should generally have an idea on what your advanced airframe will be as if your state doesnt have Chinooks, you're not going to be flying them. I've already been working with my program to get changed from my FIST unit to an AV unit. But you get paid!
Generally expect 13-18 months and this can depend on many factors. Thanks for the quick response. Phenomenal response.
Press J to jump to the feed. “This increase in AvIP, the first for Army pilots in over 20 years, will result in an increase of pay for most pilots in the regular Army, Army National Guard, and Army Reserves," Francis said.
How long is BOLC?
Super helpful. These are done through AFTP (Additional Flight Training Periods) where you come in during the week, fly, and get paid to do it. All that said, many of them still say they prefer rotary wing to fixed wing flying.
I have a good handle on the Air Guard side of things, but not on the Army Guard side.
Sounded like they removed HOST from the curriculum.
I’ve never heard of a pilot in my unit come from Air Force, only those that switch to Air Force.
Also, what specifically is considered for NG aviation officer hopefuls? Don’t worry too much about actual flight school, worry about getting there. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts.
Some states still do the "high school to flight school" although it's becoming increasingly more rare.
Hi all, I'm curious to know what the differences are in lifestyle as a part-time flyer for the Army national guard?
Being a 15T was awesome and even if you don't for some reason make it here, it's a great career.
So take that for what you will. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the nationalguard community.
